I have seen so many complaints from people regarding VIP, M/G, and the Pit. Are you kidding me???
1. Stop your whining about the VIP! Do you think everyone at that show gets an acoustic performance??? Do you know how many people would love to have that chance (Even if it is for only 5 minutes, which I saw someone complaining about) but cannot afford it?? You are so ungrateful and if I was Eric, and saw all the whining and complaining, I wouldn't do it. Seriously, you guys need therapy.
2. The people complaining about the m/g make me sick. Oh waaaaaaa.... you were lucky to be one of the few who was given this opportunity but you STILL find something to whine about. There are a ton of people who would give anything for a M/G. WHO CARES when you get to the Pit, or where your poor soul has to stand. YOU GOT TO MEET ERIC! Are you kidding me???
3. To those of you complaining about the Pit.... shut the hell up! You are close..... You can see him.... if you have a problem with standing next to someone, then don't go and give someone who is a little more appreciative a chance. I would love to have tickets there. You know what... I paid a ton of money for tickets and was told by a friend at a radio station that unless I stand on a chair or sit on someone's shoulders, I won't even be able to see the stage. Wanna trade tickets??? Didn't think so.
Point is... be thankful for what you have. Quit whining about every little thing you don't get and realize how lucky you are for the things you DO get. You complainers seem like nothing would be good enough even if they made changes to accommodate your every little demand. Seriously people.... QUIT COMPLAINING!
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Jaime
I totally understand the fear of not being able to sell the tickets you have. I paid a fortune for mine to find out they are horrible (in my opinion), I bought these the day tickets went on sale. I checked yesterday just to see what was available and pricing…. And for tickets in my area, the price had doubled. I too wish they had a more clear description of the seating. This is why I don’t understand the complaints of being able to afford VIP and M/G then off to the Pit. Actually…. I would have no problem standing in the back of the Pit. Would be much better than standing on a chair. : ) That is the root of my frustration… people do not understand that there are a lot of people who would LOVE to be in their shoes
What may be whining and complaining to one person is stating opinion and providing feedback to someone else.
I don't think anybody should come on here and devalue anybody elses post (much less start another thread to complain about the complainers). Sure, I would like to hear only positive things but sometimes things aren't all good - and hopefully somebody can learn from that experience. I know Eric can take constructive criticism and hopefully we can too.
We are all here to support EC/ECB and to have the best Church experience possible. Reading the reviews of other people helps us to know what to expect/plan for at our show.
... as far as seat choice - to each his own - that's why they offer a two choices :)
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Sorry I'm with Carla on this one.. Actually if I remember correctly E did say that it was a work in progress ~ and the only way to do work out the kinks is with input.
Eric has always been very open to this.
Also - maybe some people were disapointed...and it's ok for them to voice their opinion...there is nothing wrong with that.
Eric's community has never been about putting people down because they were disappointed or critized something to do with E or a show. NEVER.....
As for the VIP - I think that it was very open ended to what to expect until they actually started having them. I know that each person is different as is their expectations...I've seen people thrilled to bits....and some majorly disappointed and lots somewhere in the middle. I for one would not be thrilled with spending $200 for E to run in for 5minutes and sing 2 songs and run out. There is no M&G at all in the VIP. I honestly think he should spend a little more time doing that Q&A that he seems to be rushing thru if he does it at all. But that's just my opinion. ~*shrug*~ I"m not attacking him...just stating an opinion. And it's actually the first time I've been vocal about it - anywhere.
Anyway - my thoughts in a nutshell - everyone has different thoughts,ideas & expectations...not really right or wrong - just how they feel. If someone is let down - it is what it is....making a post telling them how ungrateful they are is just wrong in my opinion.
And as everyone knows....I just Love Eric big bunches. ♥
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This wasn't a post about people voicing opinions.... In fact, I have posted several questions asking for info and opinions for all of the things I mentioned above. However, I do believe there is a difference between voicing an opinion vs being straight up rude. I am on here all the time reading posts and have seen some pretty nasty remarks. I did not say anything in my post that directed to people who left feedback, ideas, opinions, or experience... That info is appreciated, but to me, there is a fine line between constructive criticism vs being flat out mean. Sorry if you took it the wrong way.
First... Hey patti! :). Second... I agree with carla....calm down...
Bravo, I couldn't have agreed with you more. I remember several years ago that this forum was full of people who appreciative of every chance they got to see Eric and the only real complaints were when he wouldn't come near people.
I think there is a difference between stating an opinion and whining. As far as pit tickets or GA I automatically go for pit tickets, that's where all the fun is. That's why Eric has such a big pit area. I realize that means I might end up way the hell in the back but that's the chance I took. I've been around since the beginning, I saw his very first Seattle show and everyone since. At everyone of those shows I was able to meet Eric, I realize that now I probably won't be able to meet him at this show. That sucks but it's also great because it means that he's stepped up and is playing for more people, that just means it's a bigger party.
we should be greatful that there is a guy like Eric who puts it all out there and hopes that we give it all. I think Jaime is right eric would say stop you're bitching and lets have some fun. When there are real issues they need to be brought up, in a positive and helpful way so that they can be fixed. Things like the ticket scalpers, which Eric has addressed and is attempting to fix. Things like complaining about the VIP experience isn't going to change that, it was pretty explicit in the description of it. You just had to read it. Personally it didn't sound like it was worth it to me, so I didn't buy it. However, some people have bought it and were glad they did, I'm happy for them. It's not for everyone, if I had more disposable income I might have bought it just to say I did it, instead I'm saving my money for a hotel and will be partying my ass off that night.
To end this epic story, please come forward with your complaints if you have them, but please don't whine about it. State your issue and move on, hopefully it can be resolved but sometimes it just can't be fixed, and don't whine about why did I pay the extra money to join the choir? I did it to show my support for Eric and the ECB never mind any possible perks. So go to the shows have fun, and party your ass off in anyway you choose.
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Im gonna have to agree with slr389, and i'm not bitching. I bought presale tickets also for the Huntington, and they are GA on the floor. I still can't believe that this is going to go well, the floor is the size of a professional hockey rink, and with everybody standing and crammed down on the floor and trying to get to the front there is going to be problems. We saw Eric last year with Jason Aldean there and the seating was reserved on the floor and it was doable. I'm not concerned about trying to get up close I'm just worried about being knocked down and stepped on by the people fighting to get to the front. I'm 5' 100#, and my husband is 6'4" 275#. We just want to enjoy the music, and not have to fight off idiots all night long. I would gladly trade these floor tickets for a pair of seats in the upper level. I do blame the promoter and Huntington for not making things clear on the Tickmstr site.
I find it hard to beluieve that so many adults have found it so difficult to look at a seating chart or read any of these posts that say the floor area is all GA. That is not the promoter that is Eric asking for it to be a GA floor. promoters and arenas do not establish seating and ga areas, that is the artist. I knew before I bought my tickets I knew that the entire floor was GA and that's what I bought. All I did was read the posts and then pull up a seating chart on the ticketmaster web site.
By the way not all of the people in the pit are idiots who are going to be rushing around and banging in to everybody else. That's mostly down in the front. Good luck folks.
I'm also wondering if everyone disappointed in the pit has never been to an E show before (or atleast in the pit)....Back in the day there was ONLY pit. I've stood in GA crowds that were anywhere from 200 to 2000 strong.....I know what to expect if I buy pit tix, but I think alot of people don't. Guaranteed if you are in the front rows you will end up sore lol.
I *think* as a country artist - people expect a country crowd (ie like Dierks crowds...they are much...uh...politer)...E has a VERY VERY rowdy, mostly college age crowd that can be extremely overwhelming if you KNOW what to expect, never mind if you have never experienced it before. I have never seen anything like his crowd,particularly in a country genre concert....tho Brantley Gilbert comes close.
Jaime - not picking on you...but if you go back and re-read your original post - take yourself away from it...it did come off as unkind. Maybe it was frustration, but yelling and people isn't going to solve this. Just ignore the people who you view as whining.....and know that I'm deeply bummed because I can't see Eric this tour and I've been going to see him since 2006.....so I get the "they should feel lucky" thing. I don't even read reviews right now cuz I'm so bummed out.
This is a reply mostly to Parkers comments, guess what i'm an adult and can read just fine the problem is there was no seating chart for the Huntington show, and I got over the pushing and shoving and fighting to see a performer about 20 years ago! I wouldn't mind as much even if it was GA with seats, but to push and shove and then stand all night and every time you have to get a beer or go to the restroom you have to fight your way back to where your husband or wife is. YEAh no thanks, we are going to be giving up our GA floor tickets and passing on this show. It's not worth us getting in a fight with someone, and my husband going to jail for punching someones face in after him or I getting knocked around.
A pit is a pit .... if you leave for a drink or a smoke or a bathroom break, you have to get back to your spot somehow. It doesn't matter the size of the pit, those factors are still there!! The fact that the entire floor is a pit does multiply it tho!!
My next show has the entire floor as the pit -- and I chose reserved. My last show had a "small" pit -- and I chose reserved .... because I do like to be able to take a smoke/drink/bathroom trip AND to have my own space to sing and dance and pump my fist and stomp my feet :)
I said all that to say -- regardless of the size of the pit, it does bring its own special set of circumstances -- and it's a choice!!
I know ticketmaster has screwed up on listing EC shows before (don't rmember when/who it happened to though) and the Choir Member contacted them and they fixed it -- have you contacted them about the lack of an accurate seating chart?
I apologise to anyone I may have offended I didn't know Ticketmaster had screwed up on the seating chart. However it has been pretty well stated on here that the entire floor is a pit. And if you're not able to control yourself and avoid a fight perhaps you're not as adult as you think you are. I've been to plenty of shows and yes I've been jostled around and bumped into and I didn't feel the need to get into any fights. That being said I'm sorry to hear you're giving up your tickets, perhaps you could call ticketmaster explain the issue and they might be able to help you out. If not maybe you can find someone who's willing to trade tickets with you. Either way good luck.
Thanks everyone for your opinions and for reading my frustrations. No harm meant to anyone. I am thankful for the GA experience descriptions. I have now added 'jello wrestling in the Pit at an Eric Church concert' to my Bucket List. Hope no one complains. : )
I have a feeling if it was up to eric he'd make the whole place GA. All I've got to say is anytime you get to see eric wether It's reserved seating, GA or whatever just have a good time because Eric and the band are up there working asses off to make sure you have fun, so just have an open mind relax and have a blast.
I have a feeling if it was up to eric he'd make the whole place GA. All I've got to say is anytime you get to see eric wether It's reserved seating, GA or whatever just have a good time because Eric and the band are up there working asses off to make sure you have fun, so just have an open mind relax and have a blast.
Thanks everyone for your opinions and for reading my frustrations. No harm meant to anyone. I am thankful for the GA experience descriptions. I have now added 'jello wrestling in the Pit at an Eric Church concert' to my Bucket List. Hope no one complains. : )
I apologise to anyone I may have offended I didn't know Ticketmaster had screwed up on the seating chart. However it has been pretty well stated on here that the entire floor is a pit. And if you're not able to control yourself and avoid a fight perhaps you're not as adult as you think you are. I've been to plenty of shows and yes I've been jostled around and bumped into and I didn't feel the need to get into any fights. That being said I'm sorry to hear you're giving up your tickets, perhaps you could call ticketmaster explain the issue and they might be able to help you out. If not maybe you can find someone who's willing to trade tickets with you. Either way good luck.
A pit is a pit .... if you leave for a drink or a smoke or a bathroom break, you have to get back to your spot somehow. It doesn't matter the size of the pit, those factors are still there!! The fact that the entire floor is a pit does multiply it tho!!
My next show has the entire floor as the pit -- and I chose reserved. My last show had a "small" pit -- and I chose reserved .... because I do like to be able to take a smoke/drink/bathroom trip AND to have my own space to sing and dance and pump my fist and stomp my feet :)
I said all that to say -- regardless of the size of the pit, it does bring its own special set of circumstances -- and it's a choice!!
I know ticketmaster has screwed up on listing EC shows before (don't rmember when/who it happened to though) and the Choir Member contacted them and they fixed it -- have you contacted them about the lack of an accurate seating chart?
This is a reply mostly to Parkers comments, guess what i'm an adult and can read just fine the problem is there was no seating chart for the Huntington show, and I got over the pushing and shoving and fighting to see a performer about 20 years ago! I wouldn't mind as much even if it was GA with seats, but to push and shove and then stand all night and every time you have to get a beer or go to the restroom you have to fight your way back to where your husband or wife is. YEAh no thanks, we are going to be giving up our GA floor tickets and passing on this show. It's not worth us getting in a fight with someone, and my husband going to jail for punching someones face in after him or I getting knocked around.
I'm also wondering if everyone disappointed in the pit has never been to an E show before (or atleast in the pit)....Back in the day there was ONLY pit. I've stood in GA crowds that were anywhere from 200 to 2000 strong.....I know what to expect if I buy pit tix, but I think alot of people don't. Guaranteed if you are in the front rows you will end up sore lol.
I *think* as a country artist - people expect a country crowd (ie like Dierks crowds...they are much...uh...politer)...E has a VERY VERY rowdy, mostly college age crowd that can be extremely overwhelming if you KNOW what to expect, never mind if you have never experienced it before. I have never seen anything like his crowd,particularly in a country genre concert....tho Brantley Gilbert comes close.
Jaime - not picking on you...but if you go back and re-read your original post - take yourself away from it...it did come off as unkind. Maybe it was frustration, but yelling and people isn't going to solve this. Just ignore the people who you view as whining.....and know that I'm deeply bummed because I can't see Eric this tour and I've been going to see him since 2006.....so I get the "they should feel lucky" thing. I don't even read reviews right now cuz I'm so bummed out.
I find it hard to beluieve that so many adults have found it so difficult to look at a seating chart or read any of these posts that say the floor area is all GA. That is not the promoter that is Eric asking for it to be a GA floor. promoters and arenas do not establish seating and ga areas, that is the artist. I knew before I bought my tickets I knew that the entire floor was GA and that's what I bought. All I did was read the posts and then pull up a seating chart on the ticketmaster web site.
By the way not all of the people in the pit are idiots who are going to be rushing around and banging in to everybody else. That's mostly down in the front. Good luck folks.
Im gonna have to agree with slr389, and i'm not bitching. I bought presale tickets also for the Huntington, and they are GA on the floor. I still can't believe that this is going to go well, the floor is the size of a professional hockey rink, and with everybody standing and crammed down on the floor and trying to get to the front there is going to be problems. We saw Eric last year with Jason Aldean there and the seating was reserved on the floor and it was doable. I'm not concerned about trying to get up close I'm just worried about being knocked down and stepped on by the people fighting to get to the front. I'm 5' 100#, and my husband is 6'4" 275#. We just want to enjoy the music, and not have to fight off idiots all night long. I would gladly trade these floor tickets for a pair of seats in the upper level. I do blame the promoter and Huntington for not making things clear on the Tickmstr site.
Bravo, I couldn't have agreed with you more. I remember several years ago that this forum was full of people who appreciative of every chance they got to see Eric and the only real complaints were when he wouldn't come near people.
I think there is a difference between stating an opinion and whining. As far as pit tickets or GA I automatically go for pit tickets, that's where all the fun is. That's why Eric has such a big pit area. I realize that means I might end up way the hell in the back but that's the chance I took. I've been around since the beginning, I saw his very first Seattle show and everyone since. At everyone of those shows I was able to meet Eric, I realize that now I probably won't be able to meet him at this show. That sucks but it's also great because it means that he's stepped up and is playing for more people, that just means it's a bigger party.
we should be greatful that there is a guy like Eric who puts it all out there and hopes that we give it all. I think Jaime is right eric would say stop you're bitching and lets have some fun. When there are real issues they need to be brought up, in a positive and helpful way so that they can be fixed. Things like the ticket scalpers, which Eric has addressed and is attempting to fix. Things like complaining about the VIP experience isn't going to change that, it was pretty explicit in the description of it. You just had to read it. Personally it didn't sound like it was worth it to me, so I didn't buy it. However, some people have bought it and were glad they did, I'm happy for them. It's not for everyone, if I had more disposable income I might have bought it just to say I did it, instead I'm saving my money for a hotel and will be partying my ass off that night.
To end this epic story, please come forward with your complaints if you have them, but please don't whine about it. State your issue and move on, hopefully it can be resolved but sometimes it just can't be fixed, and don't whine about why did I pay the extra money to join the choir? I did it to show my support for Eric and the ECB never mind any possible perks. So go to the shows have fun, and party your ass off in anyway you choose.
First... Hey patti! :). Second... I agree with carla....calm down...
This wasn't a post about people voicing opinions.... In fact, I have posted several questions asking for info and opinions for all of the things I mentioned above. However, I do believe there is a difference between voicing an opinion vs being straight up rude. I am on here all the time reading posts and have seen some pretty nasty remarks. I did not say anything in my post that directed to people who left feedback, ideas, opinions, or experience... That info is appreciated, but to me, there is a fine line between constructive criticism vs being flat out mean. Sorry if you took it the wrong way.
Sorry I'm with Carla on this one.. Actually if I remember correctly E did say that it was a work in progress ~ and the only way to do work out the kinks is with input.
Eric has always been very open to this.
Also - maybe some people were disapointed...and it's ok for them to voice their opinion...there is nothing wrong with that.
Eric's community has never been about putting people down because they were disappointed or critized something to do with E or a show. NEVER.....
As for the VIP - I think that it was very open ended to what to expect until they actually started having them. I know that each person is different as is their expectations...I've seen people thrilled to bits....and some majorly disappointed and lots somewhere in the middle. I for one would not be thrilled with spending $200 for E to run in for 5minutes and sing 2 songs and run out. There is no M&G at all in the VIP. I honestly think he should spend a little more time doing that Q&A that he seems to be rushing thru if he does it at all. But that's just my opinion. ~*shrug*~ I"m not attacking him...just stating an opinion. And it's actually the first time I've been vocal about it - anywhere.
Anyway - my thoughts in a nutshell - everyone has different thoughts,ideas & expectations...not really right or wrong - just how they feel. If someone is let down - it is what it is....making a post telling them how ungrateful they are is just wrong in my opinion.
And as everyone knows....I just Love Eric big bunches. ♥
What may be whining and complaining to one person is stating opinion and providing feedback to someone else.
I don't think anybody should come on here and devalue anybody elses post (much less start another thread to complain about the complainers). Sure, I would like to hear only positive things but sometimes things aren't all good - and hopefully somebody can learn from that experience. I know Eric can take constructive criticism and hopefully we can too.
We are all here to support EC/ECB and to have the best Church experience possible. Reading the reviews of other people helps us to know what to expect/plan for at our show.
... as far as seat choice - to each his own - that's why they offer a two choices :)
I totally understand the fear of not being able to sell the tickets you have. I paid a fortune for mine to find out they are horrible (in my opinion), I bought these the day tickets went on sale. I checked yesterday just to see what was available and pricing…. And for tickets in my area, the price had doubled. I too wish they had a more clear description of the seating. This is why I don’t understand the complaints of being able to afford VIP and M/G then off to the Pit. Actually…. I would have no problem standing in the back of the Pit. Would be much better than standing on a chair. : ) That is the root of my frustration… people do not understand that there are a lot of people who would LOVE to be in their shoes
I am gratfeul, believe me, and I'll even admit that I've been complaining. But, looking at things now, I wish I would have bought reserved seats, rather than the GA/pit on the floor. I guess I see it as poor preparation and/or communication on Ticketmaster's end for not making a seating chart available at the time tickets were on sale. I feel as if this would eliminate A LOT of confusion and complaining from people.
I can't exactly afford to buy more tickets to sit in the seats I would like, let alone buy a VIP package, and risk being down the original $115 I spent if I can't find anyone to buy them from me.
And within the GA/pit area, it seems they're selling thousands (as some were still available this morning when tickets went on sale to the public, even after the 3 day pre-sale sold out).
Yeah, I'll also admit that it's my fault for buying the tickets I did. I wasn't expecting a set up like this at the arena I'm going to. I've been to almost a dozen concerts there and they've NEVER had a set up quite like this (all GA/pit on the floor within an about 80'x 85' space).
I've been in GA/pits before. Hundreds of people is doable, thousands of people is personally just too much for me.
May still seem like I'm complaining, but I'm just expressing how I feel, sorry.
I am gratfeul, believe me, and I'll even admit that I've been complaining. But, looking at things now, I wish I would have bought reserved seats, rather than the GA/pit on the floor. I guess I see it as poor preparation and/or communication on Ticketmaster's end for not making a seating chart available at the time tickets were on sale. I feel as if this would eliminate A LOT of confusion and complaining from people.
I can't exactly afford to buy more tickets to sit in the seats I would like, let alone buy a VIP package, and risk being down the original $115 I spent if I can't find anyone to buy them from me.
And within the GA/pit area, it seems they're selling thousands (as some were still available this morning when tickets went on sale to the public, even after the 3 day pre-sale sold out).
Yeah, I'll also admit that it's my fault for buying the tickets I did. I wasn't expecting a set up like this at the arena I'm going to. I've been to almost a dozen concerts there and they've NEVER had a set up quite like this (all GA/pit on the floor within an about 80'x 85' space).
I've been in GA/pits before. Hundreds of people is doable, thousands of people is personally just too much for me.
May still seem like I'm complaining, but I'm just expressing how I feel, sorry.
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