scalpers/resellers for Eric Church tix

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this is just more of a rant than anything else. seeing the amount of tickets that are up on ebay and stubhub for 10x the price and some even higher is just infuriating. i really wish some of the managers for artists would actually monitor this. it's not like it would be a tough job at all...hop online, punch in one of the sites and just start reporting/flagging any of the posts on ebay, craigslist, etc. that are asking for ludicrous prices. these morons make it impossible for actual fans to go to the show that weren't available during the onsale times. i have no problem paying face price for a ticket or even a little more...but several hundred dollars? REALLY??!?!?!?!

ok, that's it...thanks for letting me rant for a minute

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I agree with you! I get

I agree with you! I get tired of seeing tickets for double, triple or more! When I was trying to get a Lexington Pit I and could not find 1 I checked Ebay there was somebody on there selling 8 Pits for $135 each so decided to do the VIP package instead of giving scalpers my money. It burns me up these people can get the tickets that should be ours!

There should be some way to weed these people out.

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econo35,

Having someone monitor the online sources we all know is a great idea but there is no way to regulate or enforce it. The listings would have to have actual seat numbers on them and even then, the seat number could be a typo. I know I sure wouldn't like it if they went on a hunch or guess and canceled my tickets because the individual who bought the seats next to me wanted to scalp theirs and mistyped the seating assignment.

As you look at these online postings for tickets, pay attention to the details and information that is left off for "security" or other reasons. Many of these folks are turning into professionals. It's not just the big ticketing firms that we used to have in the 90's and early 2000's...technology has turned scalping into this giant underground of soccer moms, college kids, and senior citizens (just examples, all demographics do this). Most of all, it really sucks for the true fans and the performers who have empty seats that scalpers couldn't sell. I'd rather perform in a FULL house, not just SOLD OUT.

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very true about possible

very true about possible cancellation of the wrong tickets...i more or less mean that they could just flag/report/delete the auctions or postings on the sites. the tickets would still be good, but it would be harder and harder for these resellers to sell the tickets if their posting keep getting deleted.

i know this obviously isn't the way, but between concerts and sporting events...you'd think that artists, managers, owners, etc...would care enough about the fans to come up with ways to really regulate the tickets so that these scalpers, legalized resellers, and money hungry people who don't care about the team or artist can't get their hands on massive quantities of tickets. the games and shows would mostly still sell out, but the seats would actually be filled instead of a bunch of empty seat sell outs like you mentioned. not to mention the fact that when people pay face price, they're much more likely to buy food, drinks, and memorabilia. when you pay 4x the price, you're much less likely to spend money at the show. that's just my two cents though

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That's also a good point, I hadn't thought about how people will be spending money on scalped tickets that would otherwise be spent on merch and refreshments. I think there would almost have to be legislation passed saying these auctions & asking prices must be at or below the face value...we can only hope something further will be done.

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Agreed

Its rediculous how difficult it is to get some tickets on ticketmaster on the day ticket sales start. I have started signing up for fan clubs, just to get a jump on the presales, which has worked so far. Like the majority of the population who join fans club for this reason, it is garbage that people sign up just to flip the tickets for a profit. Gosh, I must be naive, because that thought never crossed my mind, but how else are tickets available on stubhub and all these other ticketing sites at such inflated prices. I think they should all have to be placed for resale at face value. If it's an auction site and people chose to bid high, that's one thing, but to set the price above ticket value is a money making business... why doesn't the government step in. The step in everywhere else. These people profitting should have taxes to pay on their income!

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I'm with y'all, it is SO

I'm with y'all, it is SO annoying that this happens with EVERY show. I was just looking at Miranda's sold out show next week in Lexington, checked on Stubhub & some pit tix are $362! They cost us like $50-60 I think.
I remember when I went to Brad Paisley (not sure who's presale it was anymore, Miranda maybe?) you didn't find out where you were sitting or get your tickets until you got to Will Call. It was a little nerve racking not knowing where I was sitting, but that's the best method I've seen. How can you scalp tickets if you have no way to get them besides going to the show?

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I just found out that he was

I just found out that he was coming to Nashville this morning even though I was on here a week or so ago looking for concerts close by. I guess I missed it. Anyway I went on and paid for the club membership only to find the tickets are sold out for fanclub members at ticketmaster. Everytime I type in my info it pops up and says no tickets available. Great!

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Different presales successful in reducing # of scalpers

I want to point out though the difference in the number of tickets on Stub Hub from shows presold through EricChurch.com & other versus ticketmaster. The Hoffman Estates show and Indiana PA are just two examples of how few tickets compared to currently over 600 for sale at both Nashville & Columbus, and the over 700 at Red Rocks. This different form of presale really does make an impact.

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I am so mad.. I called ticket

I am so mad.. I called ticket master and complained and that got me no where.. Back in the day of small venues I NEVER had a problem getting tickets. Now that you have to buy though ticket mster I all of a sudden can't get tickets to 3 shows unless I buy VIP (which coming up with $600 is not easy for me). I told ticket master that it is not fair there is people that actually want to go to the show and can't cause the scalpers are buying them up ebay and craigslist have 50+ pit tickets for sell $185 and up for the Youngstown and Cleveland show.. Ticketmaster said that it doesn't matter cause at least the tickets are getting sold and that is all EC's promoters care about. I said well no one is going to buy them at that price so that leaves empty seats that actual fans could filled and bought merch and stuff. They hung up on me..I am upset. Us as loyal fans should have first chance to get tickets and not people tht just want to make a profit. Oh and FYI it is not legal in more states to sell tickets for more than face value..

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I agree with everyone here, I couldn't get tickets to the Nashville show through the presale either. I don't know how much of a difference it makes if we all complain but I wanted to add my 2 cents as well. I have a feeling that if EC had any control over his ticket sales, he wouldn't be too thrilled about all the scalping going on. He's never been the type to follow the masses and become a "sell out" just to make a buck. He always seemed to be someone who went against the grain and stayed loyal to his fans.

I have to agree that Brad Paisley and Dierks Bentley had the right idea when it came to selling tickets through their sites...lets see if there's any way we can get the EC Crew to jump on board!!

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I agree with all of you.

I agree with all of you. Yesterday morning was the presale for the Reading, PA show. I couldn't pull up a best available ticket until 10:08 and it wasn't even on the floor! That killed me. I have been to 10 Eric Church shows and about half or more of them I have been so close, 3 of them leaning on the stage! It is so hard for me to put that behind me and realize I won't get that anymore unless I pay an arm and a leg. That's what I really liked about Eric Church shows, they were NEVER expensive. I ended up pulling two floor seats about 45 minutes into the presale, I went ahead and bought them but I am not happy with them at all. The worst part is when they go on sale to the public I will be on a plane to South Carolina. I'm still trying to find someone to look for me.

As for ticket sales through this website, he did that all the way up until now. I had to buy my tickets through this web site and they were waiting for me at will call not knowing where my seat was. It was a love/hate thing with me. Loved that there were no problems like this at all. I just hope something eventually gets done. I know its a long shot because it is not just Eric Church, its everyone. I just hate knowing true fans can't get seats they DESERVE.

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emails and video

so ya think the emails and video were in response to this post at all? haha, don't know if they were, but it's nice to know that people are paying attention. hopefully something can be done though

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It's all a scam

Her are a few things some of you are missing or may not know. Often agencies such as stub hub and other ticket re-sellers have empoyees as memebers of various fan clubs. They have the employees go online as soon as pre sale tickets go on sale and buy the maximum number of tickets. They also go online and buy during radio pre-sales, ticketmaster pre-sales, and promoter pre-sales. Often they actually work with promoters to get the maximum number of tickets possible. They get aroiund state laws regarding resell price by using e-bay and other auction sites, as long as they do not ask for more than face value and let bidders set the prices. For stub hub and similar sites there are often loopholes in state laws that allow for re-selling above face value.
The only way to beat these guys is to get state laws changed (not likely deep pockets are involved) or resist the temptation to buy. I know this may mean missing EC or other acts you really want to see, but if people refuse to buy the market will dry up and real fans will again get to buy tickets at reasonable prices. Of course this is really hard to do. All I can say is good luck.

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If anyone hears about any

If anyone hears about any tickets on sale for nashville, please let me know. I missed out on getting tickets.

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Good luck!

Nashville is the worst for concert tickets. You almost have to give your first born to get in the nose bleed section. This probably won't help, but I have 1 ticket. Bought 2 but im going alone. Anyway, I do wish you luck. Pay attention to the radio stations. They are already talking about contests.

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Not Right!

It really is sad that people can take advantage of others like that, I had front row to Jason Aldean, and now Pit for Eric and I have been told how much I could get for my tickets, there is NO WAY i would sell them for a higher price if I couldn't go or just to make money! I would sell them for what I paid for them if it came down to it. It's sad people make their living off of scalping these tickets!

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I'm way too much of a music fan to sell tickets to scalpers. I was once offered 4000 dollars for two tickets I had to see Pearl Jam in a little club about ten years ago. I said no went to the show and had one of the best nights ever. I was so glad that I kept my tickets. It's just not worth missing a show.

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I know this is

I know this is frustrating...but quite honestly the *ONLY* way to stop all this scalping is for people to STOP buying the tickets. It's been going one since I started going to concerts in 84.....

People keep buying these tickets for artists paying waaaay over facevalue. Until people stop doing this...the practice will continue.

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    Nashville is the worst for concert tickets. You almost have to give your first born to get in the nose bleed section. This probably won't help, but I have 1 ticket. Bought 2 but im going alone. Anyway, I do wish you luck. Pay attention to the radio stations. They are already talking about contests.

    1 year 12 weeks ago
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    Patti Tib:

    I know this is frustrating...but quite honestly the *ONLY* way to stop all this scalping is for people to STOP buying the tickets. It's been going one since I started going to concerts in 84.....

    People keep buying these tickets for artists paying waaaay over facevalue. Until people stop doing this...the practice will continue.

    1 year 12 weeks ago
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    parkerd:

    I'm way too much of a music fan to sell tickets to scalpers. I was once offered 4000 dollars for two tickets I had to see Pearl Jam in a little club about ten years ago. I said no went to the show and had one of the best nights ever. I was so glad that I kept my tickets. It's just not worth missing a show.

    1 year 12 weeks ago
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    mel524:

    It really is sad that people can take advantage of others like that, I had front row to Jason Aldean, and now Pit for Eric and I have been told how much I could get for my tickets, there is NO WAY i would sell them for a higher price if I couldn't go or just to make money! I would sell them for what I paid for them if it came down to it. It's sad people make their living off of scalping these tickets!

    1 year 13 weeks ago
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    If anyone hears about any tickets on sale for nashville, please let me know. I missed out on getting tickets.

    1 year 14 weeks ago
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    parkerd:

    Her are a few things some of you are missing or may not know. Often agencies such as stub hub and other ticket re-sellers have empoyees as memebers of various fan clubs. They have the employees go online as soon as pre sale tickets go on sale and buy the maximum number of tickets. They also go online and buy during radio pre-sales, ticketmaster pre-sales, and promoter pre-sales. Often they actually work with promoters to get the maximum number of tickets possible. They get aroiund state laws regarding resell price by using e-bay and other auction sites, as long as they do not ask for more than face value and let bidders set the prices. For stub hub and similar sites there are often loopholes in state laws that allow for re-selling above face value.
    The only way to beat these guys is to get state laws changed (not likely deep pockets are involved) or resist the temptation to buy. I know this may mean missing EC or other acts you really want to see, but if people refuse to buy the market will dry up and real fans will again get to buy tickets at reasonable prices. Of course this is really hard to do. All I can say is good luck.

    1 year 15 weeks ago
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    so ya think the emails and video were in response to this post at all? haha, don't know if they were, but it's nice to know that people are paying attention. hopefully something can be done though

    1 year 15 weeks ago
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    daaaniellex:

    I agree with all of you. Yesterday morning was the presale for the Reading, PA show. I couldn't pull up a best available ticket until 10:08 and it wasn't even on the floor! That killed me. I have been to 10 Eric Church shows and about half or more of them I have been so close, 3 of them leaning on the stage! It is so hard for me to put that behind me and realize I won't get that anymore unless I pay an arm and a leg. That's what I really liked about Eric Church shows, they were NEVER expensive. I ended up pulling two floor seats about 45 minutes into the presale, I went ahead and bought them but I am not happy with them at all. The worst part is when they go on sale to the public I will be on a plane to South Carolina. I'm still trying to find someone to look for me.

    As for ticket sales through this website, he did that all the way up until now. I had to buy my tickets through this web site and they were waiting for me at will call not knowing where my seat was. It was a love/hate thing with me. Loved that there were no problems like this at all. I just hope something eventually gets done. I know its a long shot because it is not just Eric Church, its everyone. I just hate knowing true fans can't get seats they DESERVE.

    1 year 17 weeks ago
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    I agree with everyone here, I couldn't get tickets to the Nashville show through the presale either. I don't know how much of a difference it makes if we all complain but I wanted to add my 2 cents as well. I have a feeling that if EC had any control over his ticket sales, he wouldn't be too thrilled about all the scalping going on. He's never been the type to follow the masses and become a "sell out" just to make a buck. He always seemed to be someone who went against the grain and stayed loyal to his fans.

    I have to agree that Brad Paisley and Dierks Bentley had the right idea when it came to selling tickets through their sites...lets see if there's any way we can get the EC Crew to jump on board!!

    1 year 17 weeks ago
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    I am so mad.. I called ticket master and complained and that got me no where.. Back in the day of small venues I NEVER had a problem getting tickets. Now that you have to buy though ticket mster I all of a sudden can't get tickets to 3 shows unless I buy VIP (which coming up with $600 is not easy for me). I told ticket master that it is not fair there is people that actually want to go to the show and can't cause the scalpers are buying them up ebay and craigslist have 50+ pit tickets for sell $185 and up for the Youngstown and Cleveland show.. Ticketmaster said that it doesn't matter cause at least the tickets are getting sold and that is all EC's promoters care about. I said well no one is going to buy them at that price so that leaves empty seats that actual fans could filled and bought merch and stuff. They hung up on me..I am upset. Us as loyal fans should have first chance to get tickets and not people tht just want to make a profit. Oh and FYI it is not legal in more states to sell tickets for more than face value..

    1 year 18 weeks ago
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    ILSinner:

    I want to point out though the difference in the number of tickets on Stub Hub from shows presold through EricChurch.com & other versus ticketmaster. The Hoffman Estates show and Indiana PA are just two examples of how few tickets compared to currently over 600 for sale at both Nashville & Columbus, and the over 700 at Red Rocks. This different form of presale really does make an impact.

    1 year 18 weeks ago
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    warners:

    I just found out that he was coming to Nashville this morning even though I was on here a week or so ago looking for concerts close by. I guess I missed it. Anyway I went on and paid for the club membership only to find the tickets are sold out for fanclub members at ticketmaster. Everytime I type in my info it pops up and says no tickets available. Great!

    1 year 18 weeks ago
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    I'm with y'all, it is SO annoying that this happens with EVERY show. I was just looking at Miranda's sold out show next week in Lexington, checked on Stubhub & some pit tix are $362! They cost us like $50-60 I think.
    I remember when I went to Brad Paisley (not sure who's presale it was anymore, Miranda maybe?) you didn't find out where you were sitting or get your tickets until you got to Will Call. It was a little nerve racking not knowing where I was sitting, but that's the best method I've seen. How can you scalp tickets if you have no way to get them besides going to the show?

    1 year 18 weeks ago
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    Its rediculous how difficult it is to get some tickets on ticketmaster on the day ticket sales start. I have started signing up for fan clubs, just to get a jump on the presales, which has worked so far. Like the majority of the population who join fans club for this reason, it is garbage that people sign up just to flip the tickets for a profit. Gosh, I must be naive, because that thought never crossed my mind, but how else are tickets available on stubhub and all these other ticketing sites at such inflated prices. I think they should all have to be placed for resale at face value. If it's an auction site and people chose to bid high, that's one thing, but to set the price above ticket value is a money making business... why doesn't the government step in. The step in everywhere else. These people profitting should have taxes to pay on their income!

    1 year 18 weeks ago
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    That's also a good point, I hadn't thought about how people will be spending money on scalped tickets that would otherwise be spent on merch and refreshments. I think there would almost have to be legislation passed saying these auctions & asking prices must be at or below the face value...we can only hope something further will be done.

    1 year 18 weeks ago
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    very true about possible cancellation of the wrong tickets...i more or less mean that they could just flag/report/delete the auctions or postings on the sites. the tickets would still be good, but it would be harder and harder for these resellers to sell the tickets if their posting keep getting deleted.

    i know this obviously isn't the way, but between concerts and sporting events...you'd think that artists, managers, owners, etc...would care enough about the fans to come up with ways to really regulate the tickets so that these scalpers, legalized resellers, and money hungry people who don't care about the team or artist can't get their hands on massive quantities of tickets. the games and shows would mostly still sell out, but the seats would actually be filled instead of a bunch of empty seat sell outs like you mentioned. not to mention the fact that when people pay face price, they're much more likely to buy food, drinks, and memorabilia. when you pay 4x the price, you're much less likely to spend money at the show. that's just my two cents though

    1 year 18 weeks ago
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    econo35,

    Having someone monitor the online sources we all know is a great idea but there is no way to regulate or enforce it. The listings would have to have actual seat numbers on them and even then, the seat number could be a typo. I know I sure wouldn't like it if they went on a hunch or guess and canceled my tickets because the individual who bought the seats next to me wanted to scalp theirs and mistyped the seating assignment.

    As you look at these online postings for tickets, pay attention to the details and information that is left off for "security" or other reasons. Many of these folks are turning into professionals. It's not just the big ticketing firms that we used to have in the 90's and early 2000's...technology has turned scalping into this giant underground of soccer moms, college kids, and senior citizens (just examples, all demographics do this). Most of all, it really sucks for the true fans and the performers who have empty seats that scalpers couldn't sell. I'd rather perform in a FULL house, not just SOLD OUT.

    1 year 18 weeks ago
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    I agree with you! I get tired of seeing tickets for double, triple or more! When I was trying to get a Lexington Pit I and could not find 1 I checked Ebay there was somebody on there selling 8 Pits for $135 each so decided to do the VIP package instead of giving scalpers my money. It burns me up these people can get the tickets that should be ours!

    There should be some way to weed these people out.

    1 year 18 weeks ago