I just read through several posts and the common topic is presale and ticket locations. I have bought presale tickets from many different artists and have never once had an issue with getting the tickets i want. We aren't breeding pandas or launching rockets into space. The process is made simple enough so even the dumbest people can figure it out. People complain about not getting the tix they want, its because they select best available and not the highest priced ticket. Everyone who is a fan club member should want PIT tickets. If you haven't been in the pit then you are missing out. I'm a big drinker, but the times i have had PIT tickets, I minimize my drinks and bathroom breaks to assure that i get up to the stage. Never once have I not gotten to the front. Its a devotion that only comes from a true fan. To the ones who complain, you clearly are not a TRUE EC FAN. Bitching about him being a sell out and saying you want a refund will get you no where. He never sold out when he told Rascal Flatts to go screw themselves and he didnt sell out by the statement he made with the Outsiders CD.