ok not liking all the negativity as regards to presale ... I know before I joined paid church choir , it stated access to the best tickets early but hear a lot of complaints otherwise... I was fortunate to get tickets to n.c. for the give me back my hometown wich was amazing so that was worth membership for me.granted we live in Illinois and couldn't get tickets for joes in Chicago but was a great trip and stoped and got in waiting in line in indy so two church shows in two days was amazing.but pay attention hq we are loyal and love eric the band and five dozen other people it takes in the background to make it all happen.caught eric for the first time in 2012 and got stuck in seats cause it sold out so freaking fast. and im really not a sit in the seats person but I took the seats anyway, and bought floor for the next night that was added a manth later but got cancelled.but even being in the seats it was a killer show and I vow to at all possible not to miss another in my area.best wishes to all fans trying to get that front row ticket we all dream of. but I spend a lot of days listening to it in my car at home and can get goose bumps listening to a album at home or in the car can take me back to a lot of moments from some of the most amazing shows i've ever seen.